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Posted by arcticsunburn on 09-08-2002 at00:47:

 

quote:

Originally posted by Jim Muglia quote: Originally posted by arcticsunburn Yeah, I need to listen to it a bit more. "Who's Who Here" is my favorite. Speaking of which, does anyone have a take on the meaning of that song? I'm trying to figure out what it means. Jim

I think figuring out DA songs is always half the fun. I could go read a review, but then I would just say to myself, "I'm so stupid, why didn't I figure that out?"

Anyway, here's my take on "Who's Who Here."

Who's Who Here
Daniel Amos

Jason and his argonauts
Hanging out in parking lots
With teen twerps and some indiots
(and) all the riff raff
And strictly confidentially
All we got here is essentially
A vulgar vapid history
Of clap trap

OK, so it's talking about many different people here. So what? Bare with me, I'll get to the point. But I don't want to unveil my ideas just yet.

Chorus:
And who's who here?
Is anybody anybody?
And who's that there?
Someone we should know?
Who's cool here? (who rules here?)
No one and everyone
Start the show cos'
It's not clear, no
So who's who here

One of my early theories was that the song was talking about the Swirling Eddies and/or other alter egos of the band. I still like that interpretation, but I think I'm on to something bigger so again, bare with me.

The mark of Cain is apathy
Brains winding down on entropy
New york and L.A. bougeouse
And their chit chat
It's babylon, they rattle on
The herds in line and movin' on
With ecstacy dipped cattle prongs
In back packs

Hmm, let's see... New York, L.A., and Babylon. What could all this mean?

And god is their technology
A studded tongues profanity
A grim tatoos theology
Is payback
Six pack kings pull up a chair
To sculptured breasts and deriairs
Each a potential millionaire
And fat cat

If you go back to the first verse, you'll find the keyword of this song, "history." The verses are about the many people in history and the lives they lived. What's the point of history? "Who rules here?" God does. History is His Story. God is still in control. The meaning of the song is answered in a question.

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Posted by BigDork on 09-08-2002 at01:34:

 

so it's not just about the DAmb and who rules here?

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Posted by Mark on 09-08-2002 at02:04:

 

Did we all learn something today?

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Posted by BigDork on 09-08-2002 at02:07:

 

quote:

Originally posted by Mark Did we all learn something today?

you didn't

you're still posting like a DAmb fool

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Posted by Mark on 09-08-2002 at02:10:

 

I am so DAmb dumb.

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Posted by Jim Muglia on 09-08-2002 at11:34:

 

quote:

Originally posted by arcticsunburn quote: Originally posted by Jim Muglia quote: Originally posted by arcticsunburn Yeah, I need to listen to it a bit more. "Who's Who Here" is my favorite. Speaking of which, does anyone have a take on the meaning of that song? I'm trying to figure out what it means. Jim I think figuring out DA songs is always half the fun. I could go read a review, but then I would just say to myself, "I'm so stupid, why didn't I figure that out?" Anyway, here's my take on "Who's Who Here." Who's Who Here Daniel Amos Jason and his argonauts Hanging out in parking lots With teen twerps and some indiots (and) all the riff raff And strictly confidentially All we got here is essentially A vulgar vapid history Of clap trap OK, so it's talking about many different people here. So what? Bare with me, I'll get to the point. But I don't want to unveil my ideas just yet. Chorus: And who's who here? Is anybody anybody? And who's that there? Someone we should know? Who's cool here? (who rules here?) No one and everyone Start the show cos' It's not clear, no So who's who here One of my early theories was that the song was talking about the Swirling Eddies and/or other alter egos of the band. I still like that interpretation, but I think I'm on to something bigger so again, bare with me. The mark of Cain is apathy Brains winding down on entropy New york and L.A. bougeouse And their chit chat It's babylon, they rattle on The herds in line and movin' on With ecstacy dipped cattle prongs In back packs Hmm, let's see... New York, L.A., and Babylon. What could all this mean? And god is their technology A studded tongues profanity A grim tatoos theology Is payback Six pack kings pull up a chair To sculptured breasts and deriairs Each a potential millionaire And fat cat If you go back to the first verse, you'll find the keyword of this song, "history." The verses are about the many people in history and the lives they lived. What's the point of history? "Who rules here?" God does. History is His Story. God is still in control. The meaning of the song is answered in a question.

That's an interesting theory; however I'd say its the same message as Staggering Gods: the modern gods of men. While there's the word "history" in the song and the word Aabylon, its just in rerference to the present (i.e. these present guys in the parking lot have a history of clap trap; New York and LA are presently acting like Abylon once did. The message overall seems to be: who is really our god in this day and age.

Not to detract from your theory; like you say its open to interpretation.
Jim

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Posted by Jim Muglia on 09-08-2002 at11:39:

  sory eye kannt spel latelee

Hey guys,

Sorry I can't spell lately. Reviewing my previous post I spelled Babylon as "Abylon" two times. And I know I misspelled the word "style" yesterday too. I think its becasue I'm in a hurry lately that I've been making all these typos.

Sew eye opolojize in aadvaaancceee iff mie speling iz bahd iin thu fewcher. Buht eye'll bee moor kairful ferom noww onnn.

Taik cair,
Gym

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Posted by Gamgee on 09-08-2002 at12:37:

 

Damb it! You pointed out your typos before I could...

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Posted by Mark on 09-08-2002 at13:39:

 

Ha ha ha ha

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Posted by Andrew on 09-08-2002 at16:41:

 

quote:

Originally posted by Jim Muglia I mean heck, we fork out all that money for the project, we're really into the messages of the band; why not give us a little heads up for each song. On the last couple Michael W. Smith projects, "Live the Life", and "This is Your Time", he puts a little message like that before each song's lyrics, and the songs become so much more powerful since you understand what they are talking about. I wouldn't have even known that the song "This Is your Time" was about that martyred Christian girl at Columbine High if he didn't put the note before the song, and I would have missed the powerful message that "This Is Your Time" was literally referring to martyrdom. Anyhow, just a pet peave, not a crisis. Jim

I actually perfer not to have the song spelt out to me. I perfer to use my brain and work it out for myself. also that way God can speak a whole lot.




Also just beacuase I like correcting incorrect things.

Cassy Burnell was not a martyr.

Witness's say that she was under the desk going "Oh God oh god..." When Klebold poked his head under the table went "Peek a boo" and shot her.

It was a guy who was already shot who was about to be killed who was asked "do you believe in God" Who answered "Yes - my parents brought me up that way" Then for some reason Klebold didn't finish him off.

http://www.salon.com/news/feature/1999/09/30/bernall/print.html
http://www.salon.com/news/feature/1999/09/23/columbine/index.html

There is also the question in that even if Cassie was asked and answered as per legend what makes a martyr?

Klebold and Harris were just killing anybody indiscriminantly. Was she killed for her faith or because she was there?

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Posted by dorfsmith on 09-08-2002 at19:03:

 

Turning Japanese was such a deep song to me until I found out it was about masturbation. A song can mean a thousand things to A thousand people. I like to find the special meaning for me.

As for Martyr, what does that really mean anyway? The dictionary says that a martyr is someone who is put to death for refusal to abandon principles. Just because you wear WWJD on your wrist and get shot does not make you a martyr.

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Posted by arcticsunburn on 09-09-2002 at00:07:

 

quote:

Originally posted by Jim Muglia That's an interesting theory; however I'd say its the same message as Staggering Gods: the modern gods of men. While there's the word "history" in the song and the word Aabylon, its just in rerference to the present (i.e. these present guys in the parking lot have a history of clap trap; New York and LA are presently acting like Abylon once did. The message overall seems to be: who is really our god in this day and age. Not to detract from your theory; like you say its open to interpretation. Jim

Thanks for your input, Jim. Technically, I think what you did was add to my theory.

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Posted by Shemp on 09-09-2002 at07:54:

 

Okay... I'll put in my two cents...

A song that has always stirred my inner soul, yet is idiotic, is the kids nursery rhyme, Three Blind Mice . Not only is this song politically incorrect by todays measure, but it is voilent in the purest sense.

Written By: Unknown
Copyright Unknown
Three blind mice,
Three blind mice
See how they run,
See how they run!

They all ran after
The farmer's wife
She cut off their tails
With a carving knife
Did you ever see
Such a sight in your life
As three blind mice?

Why can't anyone write like this anymore?


Another plus is that it is the 3 Stooges theme song.

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Posted by carl on 09-09-2002 at13:17:

  To one more hit the "on-topic" button....

...very few lines top "Grease is the word (it's the word, that you've heard) / It's got groove, it's got meaning.... yeah, grease is the &#$@*@ WAY WE'RE FEELING?????"

(alright, so Frankie Valli didn't quite sing it that way.....)

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Posted by brdhsnyrsoul on 09-09-2002 at13:46:

 

the cows come home when I see you in your moo-moo

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Posted by carl on 09-09-2002 at13:49:

  Aargh, YES!!!!

That entire SONG, in fact.... there are precious few DA songs I can't stand, but that's one of them....

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Posted by Gamgee on 09-09-2002 at15:35:

 

quote:

Originally posted by carl ...very few lines top "Grease is the word (it's the word, that you've heard) / It's got groove, it's got meaning.... yeah, grease is the &#$@*@ WAY WE'RE FEELING?????" (alright, so Frankie Valli didn't quite sing it that way.....)

You could find stupid, obnoxious lines in pretty much every song from Grease...

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Posted by Joey T. on 09-09-2002 at15:37:

 

I like Grease, and the soundtrack.

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Posted by Gamgee on 09-09-2002 at15:40:

 

quote:

Originally posted by Joey T. I like Grease, and the soundtrack.

I like it too... but some of the songs... But how can you not love a movie that teaches girls that it's best to be a slut...

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Posted by brdhsnyrsoul on 09-09-2002 at16:23:

 

quote:

Originally posted by Gamgee quote: Originally posted by Joey T. I like Grease, and the soundtrack. I like it too... but some of the songs... But how can you not love a movie that teaches girls that it's best to be a slut...

AHHHHH - what a moral
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