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Posted by Gamgee on 10-26-2007 at13:14:

  Beat Menace lyrics?

There seems to be some lyrics missing from "Return of the Beat Menace" as listed here on the site. I can't quite make them out by listening to the song:

It's right after "Resolved in your mind- the nature of crime / Is to swallow the line of the beat menace" and starts out "You live to... (something, something, etc)"

A little help?

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Posted by dennis on 10-26-2007 at15:46:

 

Yeah I have noticed that too. I have been wondering as well.

You live to correct those who reject the (smothing-something) of the beat meance.

Then "Imagination's on the rise again, so hide your heart away."

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Posted by DwDunphy on 10-26-2007 at16:47:

 

"You live to correct those who reject the sins you connect to the beat menace."

Reading this prompts the question, are there still churches out there that, straight off the bat, condemn rock music be it secular, Christian or otherwise, because it is rock? In my young days, the church we attended certainly was. Here I saw kids caught smack in the middle of peer pressure, culture shock and the pangs of forming identity and the church elders would insist that they don't care if it came from the Christian bookstore. It was still Satanic.

I imagine a lot of them started getting the impression of who could serve God and who could not, and those long-haired weirdos certainly could not (Jesus' company excepted, of course). I remember some commentary about the "tribal beat" and the "brazen, voodoo sound" that would be hilarious were it not for the utterly insulting racial angle being asserted. So then, the few people who could have gotten Jesus to them were also secretly evil. Those who were not evil: short haired, oft bespectacled, rather white. A southern accent couldn't hurt either...

DwD

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Posted by Audiori J on 10-26-2007 at17:48:

 

Thanks for pointing that out... we will have to correct that one.

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Posted by ladrtrk55 on 10-26-2007 at18:38:

 

quote:

Originally posted by DwDunphy "You live to correct those who reject the sins you connect to the beat menace." Reading this prompts the question, are there still churches out there that, straight off the bat, condemn rock music be it secular, Christian or otherwise, because it is rock? In my young days, the church we attended certainly was. Here I saw kids caught smack in the middle of peer pressure, culture shock and the pangs of forming identity and the church elders would insist that they don't care if it came from the Christian bookstore. It was still Satanic. I imagine a lot of them started getting the impression of who could serve God and who could not, and those long-haired weirdos certainly could not (Jesus' company excepted, of course). I remember some commentary about the "tribal beat" and the "brazen, voodoo sound" that would be hilarious were it not for the utterly insulting racial angle being asserted. So then, the few people who could have gotten Jesus to them were also secretly evil. Those who were not evil: short haired, oft bespectacled, rather white. A southern accent couldn't hurt either... DwD

I began a personal crusade to counter that kind ignorance back when the pastor of the church we were attending had an alter call to burn some Mylon LeFevre concert tickets.
Insanity.
Kids were having sex in the upper room closets and I had to sneek Rez Band and Daniel Amos albums into the youth group like contraband.
The mother of one of the kids confronted me over the lyrics off "Vox Humana" 'She's all Heart'...
My longing:
To be brave until the end of all my days
At the neighing of the red horse,
Fearing nothing
When I break down COs of this
She sees no tears


To accentuate the utter shallowness of a Christian intellect was her questioning whether the red horse refered to something satanic. Lord have mercy, she'd never read the Book of Revelations.

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Posted by Drtuddle on 10-26-2007 at19:25:

 

quote:

her questioning whether the red horse refered to something satanic

Texas Church Hens! Ready to attack!

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Posted by wakachiwaka on 10-26-2007 at20:10:

  "The 80's rock wars are over"

quote:

Originally posted by DwDunphy "You live to correct those who reject the sins you connect to the beat menace." Reading this prompts the question, are there still churches out there that, straight off the bat, condemn rock music be it secular, Christian or otherwise, because it is rock?

Kris Klingensmith, the former drummer/lyricist for Barnabas, attended the recent Southern California edition of Cornerstone, and came back with some interesting thoughts:

quote:

I've been thinking about Cornerstone all day. It'll take awhile for me to get my poop grouped so I'm hoping this thread continues to grow for a few days, or weeks. I want to talk about this. It was wonderful to be at Cornerstone this weekend. I was happy to be there. I felt like a homie, and I haven't set foot in a Christian music festival since Greenfest in Toronto, the last show Barnabas ever played (what was that -- 1985, or something? I forget). It makes me wonder what I've missed over the last 2+ decades. It seems everybody these days (including me, constantly) has been whining about the pathetic state of rock music, and how rock & roll has been steamrolled by brain-dead pop and brain-deader crap, etc. blah blah blah. Well, that's certainly true in the secular music biz, but the amazing truth -- the freaking killer truth -- is that Christian bands are not only keeping rock music alive and kicking, they're pushing into louder, gnarlier realms. I love this. This is medicine to me. Christians -- CHRISTIANS -- are the best and probably last hope for hard rock music on planet earth. The 80's rock wars are over, and we win. We win. WE WIN. I saw it, and I get it. I get it. The Body of Christ is comfortable and openly aggressive with rock music, from Anberlin to Demon Hunter. And all bands in between. We win. The bands win. The listeners win. That sorry, silly, nasty old 80's creepy jimmy swaggart thing is dead. Dead. It's dead. This is good, brothers and sisters. The Church -- the Body of Christ -- owns a significant piece of rock & roll tonight. Sweet. I love it. I LOVE IT.

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Posted by wakachiwaka on 10-27-2007 at08:11:

 

I remember back in the early 80s someone had given me a tract condemning Christian rock music. It contained all the usual "jungle boogie" rhetoric, but also made a point about the ungodly lifestyles of such Christian rock artists as...

Kris Kristofferson?

Andrew Loyd Weber?

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Posted by bein heinni on 10-27-2007 at10:19:

 

if you don't bring cash, we will menace you with a beating until we get it out of you!

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Posted by dennis on 10-30-2007 at08:32:

 

quote:

Originally posted by DwDunphy "You live to correct those who reject the sins you connect to the beat menace." DwD

Yes, very good. I played it over and over going home and heard the same thing, at last, at last.

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Posted by jiminy on 10-30-2007 at09:29:

 

uhm - look at the lyric sheet that came with the CD...

Oh wait....

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Posted by Drtuddle on 10-30-2007 at09:59:

 

quote:

wakachiwaka

"Jungle music can God really use it?"

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Posted by sprinklerhead on 10-30-2007 at10:16:

 

I remember watching a video called Hells Bells when I was a youth group leader in L.A. It was mostly references to obscure bands and scare tactics. The end just killed me. We had a room full of kids watching this thing and the guy says that there are plenty of alternatives to the evil rock music. Then he shows these ladies dancing to totally goofy music and expects kids to burn their albums and listen to that crap. It was ridiculous.

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Posted by ladrtrk55 on 10-30-2007 at10:31:

 

sprinklerhead, we were at the last performance, in San Antonio, of Stryper before they broke up.
As we were leaving, there was some bunch of kooks from a Baptist church there in SA. They didn't buy tickets, of course, and were out front as the crowds left, extoling to evils of the Christian rock bands.
As there were lots of plain old rockers there, we decided to run interference for them. We engaged the Beatmenace folk out by our cars, virtually blocking them from the unsaved and the weaker brethern.
They didn't realize what we were doing, as several of our party had taken them out of the 'fight'.
As the confrontation wound down, I asked what church they represented and who their pastor was.
Later that week, I wrote a personal letter of rebuke to the pastor. I included several testimonies including those of the musicians, scripture backing(Ps.150,etc), and the names and numbers we and our chuch pastor could be contacted for further discussion as to the proper witnessing techniques at rock concerts.


Never heard one word back from them.

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Posted by dennis on 10-30-2007 at10:55:

 

quote:

Originally posted by jiminy uhm - look at the lyric sheet that came with the CD... Oh wait....

Yeah...

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Posted by dennis on 10-30-2007 at10:55:

  RE: Beat Menace lyrics?

quote:

Originally posted by Gamgee There seems to be some lyrics missing from "Return of the Beat Menace" as listed here on the site.

It's missing from the CD / record and tape as well.

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Posted by Mountain Fan on 10-30-2007 at13:03:

  RE: Beat Menace lyrics?

quote:

Originally posted by dennis quote: Originally posted by Gamgee There seems to be some lyrics missing from "Return of the Beat Menace" as listed here on the site. It's missing from the CD / record and tape as well.

that's kind of a menace ...

maybe the DFBB reissue will correct this!

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Posted by joey on 10-30-2007 at13:12:

RE: Beat Menace lyrics?

quote:

Originally posted by dennis quote: Originally posted by Gamgee There seems to be some lyrics missing from "Return of the Beat Menace" as listed here on the site. It's missing from the CD / record and tape as well.

i had to pull out my "cassette" and check.........
it is.........
(i don't own an "official" copy on cd...... )
hopefully, it will be right on the arena rock re-issue........

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Posted by DwDunphy on 10-30-2007 at19:27:

 

"Kris Klingensmith, the former drummer/lyricist for Barnabas, attended the recent Southern California edition of Cornerstone, and came back with some interesting thoughts:..."

I'm sorry, but I've been all over Underoath's "Define The Great Line" and although they're on Tooth And Nail and thank Jesus in the liner notes, all that comes across is a lot of screamo angst. I'm not saying they can't rock, and I'm not saying they have to be bumper sticker theologians, but I got nothing about man, God or whatever lies between from that recording. I got that the band was really angry, sad, upset, confused but you get that from any emo/screamo band.

I'm just wondering what Klingensmith would have gotten from that performance.

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Posted by ladrtrk55 on 10-30-2007 at20:22:

  RE: Beat Menace lyrics?

quote:

Originally posted by joey quote: Originally posted by dennis quote: Originally posted by Gamgee There seems to be some lyrics missing from "Return of the Beat Menace" as listed here on the site. It's missing from the CD / record and tape as well. i had to pull out my "cassette" and check......... it is......... (i don't own an "official" copy on cd...... ) hopefully, it will be right on the arena rock re-issue........

I might give my old "Dr.Edward Daniel Taylor Miracle Faith Telethon" a listen.
Terry does the "actor's studio" reading of "Return of the Beat Menace".