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Posted by Ron E on 06-27-2003 at21:06:

ok, for arguments sake then, who specifically glows with warmth in today's ccm. I don't think Project 86 glows with warmth. I don't think that Sixpence glows with warmth. No, let me change that, they are really terrific. They both put out intelligent lyrics and great music within the genre they play. So lets hear it. If it glows with warmth, prove it, mind you don't pick old stuff like the old MWS, or Amy Grant or newer Petra or the Tuxedo Clad Megastar, we already know about that. And I'm not talking about motives or whatever, that's the CCM machine, not the artists.

Posted by Jevon the Tall on 06-27-2003 at21:12:

My compass points to the old styled stuff for the most part. So like you driver I miss the old stuff, but a lot of the old farts are still around if not commercially viable.

Where are you from to remember Quickflight? The main guy and I are old friends, and he's as tall as me. One day Starsong will reissue their last album on CD hopefully.

Posted by JR88 on 06-27-2003 at21:13:

It all sucks! Sixpence is an exception, but the rest of the crowd is "trying" to sound like their secular counterparts. I just don't feel any "love" for the music now a days....I feel it's just shoved out as quick as possible without any thought. I guess the same goes for secular music...it's very rare to find a person or band that "feels" thier music. Hey I haven't listened to much CCM in the past 2 or 3 years...I don't wanna argue, it's just my feeling. Send me a list of CCM artists that can compare to the list I gave on my previous post and I'll check them out. There may still be hope for a few....and I don't believe the artists are at fault, I believe the record companies just want to sell...sell....sell.

Posted by JR88 on 06-27-2003 at21:17:

quote:

Originally posted by Jevon the Tall
My compass points to the old styled stuff for the most part. So like you driver I miss the old stuff, but a lot of the old farts are still around if not commercially viable.

Where are you from to remember Quickflight? The main guy and I are old friends, and he's as tall as me. One day Starsong will reissue their last album on CD hopefully.

Dude! Quickflight was awesome!!!!!The only album we had was Decent Beat....I miss it so much! I just can't feel this new CCM stuff...I'm not trying to be harsh but I just don't get it.

Posted by Ron E on 06-27-2003 at21:20:

I know where we are all are coming from but I guess what I want to know is are we just a bunch of aging grandpa's sitting around rememebering the good ol' days or are we actually basing it on some knowledge. So you say it all glows with warmth ( well, now except for Sixpence) so I want to know what specifically you think glows with warmth. I think a lot of it does too, but I also think there is a lot of good stuff out there too, just like DA and all the others "were" there, back in the day.

Posted by JR88 on 06-27-2003 at21:26:

Maybe your right....I'm just back in the day. I really can't name names because I don't know anyone anymore. I go to Zondervan and listen to the samples of some new stuff, and I just don't feel it. I guess I'm stuck in the past...and as far as Grandpa Mad

don't go there! I'm only 29! Which makes my like for old CCM a little strange I guess. But I don't care for a lot of new secular music either....I still really enjoy Classic Rock...ya know...Pink Floyd, Boston, Styx, REO, Beatles etc....

Big Grin

Posted by Jevon the Tall on 06-27-2003 at21:27:

I remember Ric getting grief when Fade to Glory was pigeon holed as sounding too much like Der Kommissar (or something like that) for Falco (and AFT) and he was totally offended. So he was categorized as sounding like "those" bands in the secular arena.

He was ahead of his time, and Decent Beat should have been the beginning, but the band splintered and he was the main creative force, and was shopping his demos which were pretty bloody good too, but no bites.

This thread reminds me of a arguments me and my uncle would have as to why BTO and Kiss rocked and why bands like CCR and Iron Butterfly had had their day ... music wasn't the same anymore he argued.

Posted by Ron E on 06-27-2003 at21:30:

I'm only 31 and only in the past year or so have i come to realize that i've moved past the "cutting edge" of music, not to say that i was ever at the cutting edge, just that i've just realized it. There is a lot of junk though, don't get me wrong Smile

Posted by JR88 on 06-27-2003 at21:30:

quote:

Originally posted by Jevon the Tall
Fade to Glory

Do you know where I can get copies of old Quickflight? Frown

I really miss that album Crying

Posted by JR88 on 06-27-2003 at21:35:

quote:

Originally posted by Ron E
I'm only 31 and only in the past year or so have i come to realize that i've moved past the "cutting edge" of music, not to say that i was ever at the cutting edge, just that i've just realized it. There is a lot of junk though, don't get me wrong Smile

I hear ya brother! Big Grin

I miss Quickflight Crying

and Vector Crying

Posted by Ron E on 06-27-2003 at21:38:

I've never heard QUickflight, heard of them though. Vector I didn't hear till they were releasing their stuff on the double cassettes about 8 years ago.

Posted by JR88 on 06-27-2003 at21:42:

Definition: Quickflight = ahead of the times...

Sorry you never heard them....you really missed out on some innovative stuff! Really it sounds crazy but I feel sad sometimes because I miss that Quickflight cassette my brother "had".

Posted by Commander Cote on 06-27-2003 at21:44:

I think (like most here) that most of the stuff in CCM Magazine is more market driven than most stuff. I guess it's a real sad day for what we have called Christian music for years when it becomes all about
who's selling the most. I don't know, I just sitting here typing and trying to think at the same time. Getting back to the beginning of the thread, I guess I'm just disgusted with what CCM has become since the mid 80's. I feel it used to be a source where I could read reviews about ground breaking music, as opposed to now, where we read about who's jumping on the "Next Worship CD". There's obviously nothing wrong with worship music, but, I feel like people are just seeing that it sells and figure "Well we better do one too". I may be wrong, but, that's just what I feel right now. And of course being a DA fan since 78, I guess I'm just blown a way that they never got the noteriety they deserve.
Talk about influential, ground breaking, thought provoking, creative, inspirational, what more do you need or want in a artist???????? I guess we're just stuck having them as our band That Will Never Go A Way!
Good Night Everyone
Sorry for rambling

Posted by Ron E on 06-27-2003 at21:48:

Yeah I think we're all with you on that one Commander. I definitely feel like the machine is broken, the best artists are often in the 2nd tier of popularity, the pretty/silly ones are the most popular ones.

Posted by JR88 on 06-27-2003 at21:50:

quote:

Originally posted by Commander Cote
I think (like most here) that most of the stuff in CCM Magazine is more market driven than most stuff. I guess it's a real sad day for what we have called Christian music for years when it becomes all about
who's selling the most. I don't know, I just sitting here typing and trying to think at the same time. Getting back to the beginning of the thread, I guess I'm just disgusted with what CCM has become since the mid 80's. I feel it used to be a source where I could read reviews about ground breaking music, as opposed to now, where we read about who's jumping on the "Next Worship CD". There's obviously nothing wrong with worship music, but, I feel like people are just seeing that it sells and figure "Well we better do one too". I may be wrong, but, that's just what I feel right now. And of course being a DA fan since 78, I guess I'm just blown a way that they never got the noteriety they deserve.
Talk about influential, ground breaking, thought provoking, creative, inspirational, what more do you need or want in a artist ???????? I guess we're just stuck having them as our band That Will Never Go A Way!
Good Night Everyone
Sorry for rambling

You hit it on the head Commander! ARTIST! CCM doesn't want ARTISTS, they want cookie cutter music....they don't want to offend....cause how would the church look at a song like Hide The Beer? I say as christians we should be more creative and use our imaginations to out do the secular world!

Big Grin

Posted by Ron E on 06-27-2003 at21:51:

we need Roaring Lambs!!! Oh no, we're spinning again....

Posted by Jevon the Tall on 06-27-2003 at21:51:

My old records are long gone - destroyed in a flood. I have a very sketchy normal bias copy of a test pressing that didn't have the fretless bass intro to Water of Life. It's almost gone.

Ric I haven't seen in a decade, last I heard he was an accountant. Go figure.

I've tried finding him a couple of times, but who knows where he is now.

For you Canadiana fans, Strange Advance video for We Run, has Ric in it playing the Mellotron of all things.