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Posted by Lost Canine on 05-26-2004 at11:13:

 

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Originally posted by dennis quote: Originally posted by Lost Canine If any recording was meant to be played loud, it is DFBB. What did Q say? "Great F*ckin' Noise?"

I had forgot that quote. Yes, I can agree with this.

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Posted by Mark on 05-26-2004 at13:07:

 

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Originally posted by dennis quote: Originally posted by Mark I've thought of trying this myself. I think a program I have will also do this. Well, that would be cool Motorcycle is nice & loud! )

I'm doing this right now. I just figured out how and did the first song. I'll continue and then burn it to a disc. Hopefully, by cranking the decibels so high, I won't be causing too much distortion. I'll let you know how it goes.

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Posted by Mark on 05-26-2004 at13:44:

 

I just completed a Darn Floor Big Bite CD complete with higher decibels. It does sound much better. I'm going to have to go try it in my car. That's where I can best tell the difference between remastered or re-EQ'd CD's. I can tell by the volume number I usually listen to CD's on.

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Posted by dennis on 05-26-2004 at13:49:

 

Let me know how it works in your car!

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Posted by Mark on 05-26-2004 at14:06:

 

I just tried it out. It sounds pretty darn good on preliminary listening. I put in the original and turned my volume to 56. Then I put in my new version and left the volume the same. It was an amazing difference. Everything can be heard more clearly. Now I need to find time to really listen to make sure things aren't distorted. It didn't seem to be.

I made this by using my ACID Music 3.0 program. First I had to save the DFBB tracks into the ACID program format. Then I took each track, increased the dB's all the way, then saved it as a .wav file. I was afraid increasing the dB's all the way might cause some distortion. It didn't really seem to. Next I used Roxio Easy Media Creator 7 to burn the CD. A piece of cake.

Heck, this was so cool, now I need to ponder what other favorite CD's in my collection that have never been remastered or re-EQ'd, I should do.

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Posted by dennis on 05-26-2004 at14:38:

 

I have heard that you can mix a CD into the reds and it will not distort...
Now we know!

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Posted by Mark on 05-26-2004 at14:42:

 

You know. I thought of trying this before, but never tried it (though not necessarily with this CD). I'm glad ya'll have been discussing it on this thread and since I'm off work this week and next, I decided to try it.

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Posted by Mark on 05-26-2004 at15:18:

 

I ought to do this to Mark Heard - High Noon.

It is probably the worst sounding CD, in terms of volume, that I have and have ever heard. It really is pitiful that it was released like it was.

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Posted by audiori on 05-26-2004 at15:19:

 

My Ideola CD was really, really weird about how it was recorded.
It won't even play in some CD players.

Fearful Symmetry was one of the first CDs I owned, I had payed
like $200 for a portable CD player that was like a brick, had hard
corners on it, about 4 inches think and weighed about 10 pounds.
Great big giant battery pack that lasted about 2 hours then had
to be recharged for 12 hours. Wow.... back in the day...

Audiori J

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Posted by dennis on 05-26-2004 at15:34:

 

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Originally posted by Mark I ought to do this to Mark Heard - High Noon. It is probably the worst sounding CD, in terms of volume, that I have and have ever heard. It really is pitiful that it was released like it was.

That is a quiet one too.

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Posted by dennis on 05-26-2004 at15:34:

 

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Originally posted by audiori My Ideola CD was really, really weird about how it was recorded. It won't even play in some CD players. Fearful Symmetry was one of the first CDs I owned, I had payed like $200 for a portable CD player that was like a brick, had hard corners on it, about 4 inches think and weighed about 10 pounds. Great big giant battery pack that lasted about 2 hours then had to be recharged for 12 hours. Wow.... back in the day... Audiori J

Good times!

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Posted by bereal on 05-26-2004 at17:11:

 

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Originally posted by dennis quote: Originally posted by Mark The re-released Lost Dogs Scenic Routes sounds so much better than the original version. I just have the original!

Man are you missin' out!

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Posted by bereal on 05-26-2004 at17:12:

 

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Originally posted by Joey T. quote: Originally posted by dennis quote: Originally posted by Lost Canine If any recording was meant to be played loud, it is DFBB. What did Q say? "Great F*ckin' Noise?" and i remember somebody saying that it grabs you by the b*lls!

Sorry guys, but I don't remember DFBB grabbin' me by the balls!

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Posted by wes berlin on 05-26-2004 at17:54:

 

while lower volumes seem wrong....they actually have more dynamic range.

the way cds are manufactured now-a-days, with no dynamic range, is quite upsetting. everyone is competing to see who's record will sound loudest on the radio....not who has written the best song.

the best solution is to reduce the volume on you other cds....of course many people like to set their eq in the "happy face" position......which is just as bad. eq is about reducing noise and sculpting not adding....what is usually noise. and just for the record, i usually just boost the level....but it is better to reduce the level.

btw, for those of you who use windows.......there is a great program (musicmatch) which has the best volume leveling software that i have used. on the other hand itunes volume leveler sucks.

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Posted by Mark on 05-26-2004 at23:14:

 

I'm sure you are right wes, but Mark Heard High Noon was just plain done poorly. I know I've even read about others opinions on the web.

What I did to DFBB today was kind of fun. It does sound great in my car. On my home stereo, if I crank it up so loud that you can hear it outside, then the bass is a little much. But it was a fun experience.

In my house I can just turn up my stereo for any CD. In my car I almost have to turn the volume up close to the top with High Noon to hear it loud. As I mentioned I often listen to an average CD on my car stereo on anywhere between 46-56 volume level. High Noon I have to crank it to 70 to hear it at the same level that other CD's play at. The stereo only goes to 80.



Speaking of remastered CD's, when will Universal ever remaster U2's CD's? Many of them are badly in need of remastering. Individual tracks are remastered on their Best Of CD's. I have the Mobile Fidelity gold CD's and they sound good, but remastering has come a long way since Mobile Fidelity remastered War, The Unforgettable Fire, and The Joshua Tree.

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Posted by Vox Robotica on 05-26-2004 at23:36:

 

I guess us have nots will have to imagine what a remastered copy of DFBB would sound like, huh?

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Posted by audiori on 05-27-2004 at12:02:

 

Hmmmmmmm dont be too sure.

What would people think of other reissues like the first
album one we are doing now with a second disc of special
stuff?

Audiori J

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Posted by carl on 05-27-2004 at12:15:

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Originally posted by Mark I'm sure you are right wes, but Mark Heard High Noon was just plain done poorly. I know I've even read about others opinions on the web.... In my house I can just turn up my stereo for any CD. In my car I almost have to turn the volume up close to the top with High Noon to hear it loud. As I mentioned I often listen to an average CD on my car stereo on anywhere between 46-56 volume level. High Noon I have to crank it to 70 to hear it at the same level that other CD's play at.

Yuppers. When I think "ridiculously lowly mastered CDs," High Noon tops the list (although his other late ones, honestly, aren't much better). I have to put the PC on 10 to hear it close to properly. Thank God it's still worth it.

Oh, back on topic: Uh, yeah, a louder-mastered DFBB with extra tuneage? I SUPPOSE I can live with that....

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Posted by Lur King on 05-27-2004 at12:37:

CooL

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Originally posted by audiori Hmmmmmmm dont be too sure. What would people think of other reissues like the first album one we are doing now with a second disc of special stuff?

CooL

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Posted by dennis on 05-27-2004 at15:45:

 

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Originally posted by bereal quote: Originally posted by Joey T. quote: Originally posted by dennis quote: Originally posted by Lost Canine If any recording was meant to be played loud, it is DFBB. What did Q say? "Great F*ckin' Noise?" and i remember somebody saying that it grabs you by the b*lls! Sorry guys, but I don't remember DFBB grabbin' me by the balls!

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