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Posted by WoaaahJelly! on 01-21-2017 at08:13:

Hi Ron!

Posted by jparker on 02-25-2017 at15:30:

Should we expect an announcement soon?

Posted by audiori on 02-25-2017 at18:44:

Yes... trying to finalize a few details and then we should be making an announcement.

Posted by wayneb on 02-26-2017 at04:07:

That's.....horrendously great news!

Posted by audiori on 03-01-2017 at19:21:

For the first time ever, Daniel Amos' classic album Horrendous Disc is being produced in a multi-disc Deluxe, Collectors Edition through a joint effort between DA's Stunt Records and Larry Norman's Solid Rock Records!

Help us make it happen!

https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/946153346/daniel-amos-horrendous-disc-deluxe-edition

Posted by Mark on 03-01-2017 at20:30:

I pledged!

Posted by wayneb on 03-02-2017 at00:04:

Me too! Hard to choose but I wanted the T-shirt. That still left lots of options.

Posted by WoaaahJelly! on 03-02-2017 at11:40:

Question- I think I have posted earlier that I am more of an Eddies fan and anything DA before about the 1990's I have a dearth of. I do want to fill out my DA collection and I need some of you old timers to tell me what recommends HD over the other 1980's DA stuff. I think I want a pair of LPs at a minimum but why this and not some of the other DA stuff? What makes this one stand out.

Thank you for the answers and I will hang up the phone and take my answer off the air.

Posted by Ron E on 03-02-2017 at13:38:

Is there an option to buy vinyl but still get a digital copy? I see digital copy offered in the first package but not again.

Posted by audiori on 03-02-2017 at14:41:

The download will probably be offered to all of the higher tiers.

Posted by Ron E on 03-02-2017 at15:49:

Smile

Posted by jyroflux on 03-02-2017 at20:03:

This one has me a little hopeful. The CD I have of HD sounds like it was mastered from a cassette. Dang I hope you guys can restore it to it's full glory. Which means I hope the master tapes are in good condition for the core songs.I guess I'll have to pony up so that we can find out.

Posted by Audiori J on 03-02-2017 at20:07:

The original records back in the day were mastered from the wrong master tapes. We are transferring and using the best source tapes available in both the Solid Rock and DA archives, then it will all be mastered.

Posted by jyroflux on 03-02-2017 at20:11:

That sounds even more promising.

I made my pledge.

Posted by Tyler Durden on 03-02-2017 at23:06:

Website needs KickStarter link

I know that you reached your KickStarter goal with, largely, just the email that went out. Are the band members going to promote it on their Facebook accounts and will the website have a new banner that let's visitors know?

I remember purchasing the original vinyl from a "Christian" bookstore and the owner questioned how a bunch of guys in costumes (centerfold picture) could actually be Christians. Same guy didn't go to his daughter's wedding due to a disagreement he had with the groom over the amillennialism vs premillennialism vs postmillennialism debate. Sad.

Thanks for making this happen!

Posted by audiori on 03-03-2017 at18:40:

Yes more promotion is coming... were regrouping a bit since we met the initial goal so fast.

Posted by Jimmy Brown on 03-04-2017 at08:45:

Smile

Made my pledge. At long last, it shall be mine.

By the way, there's a typo at the end of the Kickstarter text: "Kikcstarter."

Posted by voxrob on 03-05-2017 at00:57:

I see that the kickstarter is not 5 days old and it's almost 80% over the goal. Very nice, I'm glad -- this should be extremely encouraging.

I'm curious about the wrong source being used -- does this mean for the album in 1981? Or are you referring to them being a couple of generations removed from the masters they should have used for cutting the LP or wrong versions altogether?

Incidentally, speaking of HD trivia and alternate takes, can anyone shed light on the Solid Rock release of Horrendous Disc done only a few (heh, 8 maybe?) years ago -- not the one with Larry singing on it -- the other one that had what seemed to be alternate mixes (but I've always wondered about a couple of those tracks). There were no liner notes, really, so no information about those particular mixes and what they were about. It was a peculiar release during, I guess, a peculiar time at Solid Rock.

Thanks for these efforts, guys.

Posted by voxrob on 03-05-2017 at03:32:

It's marvelous that this effort has been so wildly successful -- even for myself, I wonder why this album is such a landmark in my life -- and evidently it is in the lives of many others. Few albums by any artist seem to strike this chord in me -- only a couple of DA albums do the same thing. Since seeing the announcement of this campaign earlier this evening, I just had to put HD in the player and listen again, even till after 1AM.

As for "more promotion is coming"... is that additional pledge awards? I certainly will be checking back during March to see how far we can get this.

Posted by Audiori J on 03-05-2017 at07:31:

The album had a long and complicated history. Being recorded originally for Maranatha, then taken to Solid Rock and distributed by Word. In the transition a couple of songs were dropped and a couple added. Various mix down masters were made of various quality over this period, at various stages of the record.

From the Timeline:

September 7, 1977:
Daniel Amos, in a session that began at 1PM, records "Happily Married Man" at MartinSound Studios in Alhambra, CA.

June 10, 1978, the band began working on Horrendous Disc.

November 7, 1978:
Masters for Horrendous Disc are assembled at the Record Plant. The track list at the time was "I Believe In You," "Man In The Moon," "Never Leave You," "Tidal Wave," "Out Across the Sky" on side one; "Fairy Tale," "On The Line," "After All These Years," and "Horrendous Disc" on Side two.

Masters for a planned EP are assembled at the Record Plant. Tracks included "Happily Married Man," "Blazing Hats," "I Rebuke You Bro Part I," "After All These Years," "Fairy Tale" and "I Rebuke You Bro Part II."

By April 3, 1979, the band started mixing the album, including "I Love You #19." They settled on a final track list on August 26, 1979.

September 1979:
A test pressing of Horrendous Disc was made by Word. The band took a copy of the record with them on tour in Hawaii but they did not hear the test pressing until Spring of 1980. They were surprised to find out that Word had printed the disc with an incorrect track order. The test pressing's track list is as follows: the Flying Saucer sounds, "On The Line", "Never Leave You", "I Believe In You", "(Near Sighted Girl with Approaching) Tidal Wave", "Sky King", "I Love You #19", "Man In The Moon", "Hound of Heaven", and "Horrendous Disc."

July 1980:
Word radio promo man "dangerous Dan" Hickling releases the 10" Horrendous Disc ep to radio stations, with Blue and White swirled vinyl. Side one (33 1/3 rpm) features "I Believe In You," "Hound of Heaven" and "Horrendous Disc." Side Two (78 rpm) has the flying saucer sounds, and "On The Line."

The test pressing and 10 inch EP were from the wrong master tape.

December 1980:
Word Records Vice President Stan Moser informs CCM Magazine of the current status of DA's long-delayed Horrendous Disc. Moser indicated that Norman still had the legal rights and physical control of the Daniel Amos record. Stan: "Well, here's what we've got. What we have in our warehouse right now is, I believe, 25,000 jackets with the wrong songs listed on the back. And we have 10,000 8-tracks and cassettes of finished product that have only nine songs and I think there are ten songs that are supposed to be on the final album. So we've had those in our warehouse for about 90 days. Once we reached that stage, we realized that something was wrong somewhere. And then Larry informed us that the 8-tracks and cassettes were pressed from the wrong master tape, or created from the wrong master tape, and that he would furnish us with the finished master tape that would correspond, as I understand it, with the jackets we now have."

Even by this point, there was a mixup still occurring with master tapes. And when the album was finally released on April 10, 1981, there were differences in the final pressings between the UK, US and Canadian versions. Those differences can be attributed to different mix down tapes. Who knows why it was mixed up, and franky in relation to this release, we don't care.

With input from the band and Solid Rock's help, we are going to make sure everythig is the way it was originally invisioned. Solid Rock has gratiously shared materials from their vault, and we have access to DA's vault, so it's just a matter of transferring all the right stuff, getting it mastered with the proper layout and production. I think the end result will be something everyone will be happy with.