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Posted by dorfsmith on 04-30-2004 at13:36:

 

Keith was always up front and honest.



Posted by jiminy on 04-30-2004 at15:07:

 

Some of Mike Knotts Music resembles the aforementioned-
He is brutally honest., and can be much darker than Keith or Mark ever were.



Posted by FaintScentsOfSewage on 04-30-2004 at15:24:

 

a favourite of mine

http://www.treebyleaf.org/music/



Posted by dennis on 04-30-2004 at15:31:

 

quote:
Originally posted by dorfsmith
Besides those previously mentioned, the only one I can come up with is Starflyer 59. Jason Martin does not have the poetry that mark heard did but he certainly makes moving music. If you havn't already, buy up everything Starflyer 59 ever did.


Jason has some good lyrics, but his real genius is in the music! Cool



Posted by dennis on 04-30-2004 at15:33:

 

Mike Knott is awesome. Shaded Pain is top notch!

Adam Again is something special as well.



Posted by DwDunphy on 05-01-2004 at08:45:

  I can't see many

My first Mark Heard disc was "Satelite Sky", which had both "Orphans Of God" and "Freight Train To Nowhere" on it. You can tell he labored intensely on the lyrics, but they didn't come across as too overworked or clunky.

This was just a guy who liked how words sounded and how you could construct such elegant and meaningful phrases from nothing as disposable as a single word.

So I'd probably reiterate the names that have already been mentioned and add Bruce Cockburn to it, as well as Sam Phillips who has a new disc out (A Boot And A Shoe)...

DwD



Posted by HEMISPHERICALHEADS on 05-01-2004 at11:33:

  RE: Why you wanna cry?

quote:
Originally posted by zippetydoodaddy


Lucinda Williams - Rated PG-13, but full of the beautiful, sacred and profane! Spiritually full.

Bill Malonee and The Vigilantes of Love - Shut up. Bill is the re-incarnation of Mark Heard. His is a collection that forces you to seek out every album; past, present and future.

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Yes....Lucinda's last "World Without Tears" is quite the album..The song in which the "F" word is used is very , very , stirring...One of my top three releases of 2003..
Listen...


And yes Bill..I have quite a bit of his stuff..Probably 15 or so albums. (And that is NOT his entire discography! He is quite the prolific writter. He just keeps cranking them out! I'm lacking "Jugular" , "Live at the 40 Watt", and "Across the Big Pond." Love that catholic brother..



Posted by HEMISPHERICALHEADS on 05-01-2004 at11:35:

 

quote:
Originally posted by dennis
quote:
Originally posted by dorfsmith
Besides those previously mentioned, the only one I can come up with is Starflyer 59. Jason Martin does not have the poetry that mark heard did but he certainly makes moving music. If you havn't already, buy up everything Starflyer 59 ever did.


Jason has some good lyrics, but his real genius is in the music! Cool


Thanks to you Dennis , I'm wanting to check these guys out...I recently icked up a "Tooth and Nail" sampler called "The Nail" for family listening and a SF59 tune was on it..right up my alley sonically!! Big Grin



Posted by Eis on 05-01-2004 at20:06:

  bill, definitely

Bill Mallonee is amazing! Just about my favorite artist; I love his music and his lyrics move me to no end. I actually found him first (with summershine), then Daniel Amos (I actually found Lost Dogs first, but found GRSP1 and was afraid of country at that time). I moved into all Terry's stuff after that abd found out about Mark Heard from getting the "Strong Hand of Love" tribute Video free with an order from CBD. Bill, Terry, and Mark are among my favorites now. I've gotten Mark's final trilogy on cassette from RadRockers, and am working on getting those converted to CD-R with the wonders of technology Cool



Posted by jiminy on 05-02-2004 at09:09:

  strange

eis-
just backward for me. I been a Heard fan since even before idEOlA..and am just now starting to explore Mr Bill. (thx dambers....)



Posted by carl on 05-02-2004 at17:47:

Angry

quote:
Originally posted by Joey T.
quote:
Originally posted by dorfsmith
Mark's lyrics are just plain amazing. I don't quite see how you can compare him to Keith Green in that Keith Green was not much of a poet and mark heard was. Many of his songs were spiritual only in an alegorical sense like terry's. Listen to High Noon again.

"...one kiss and I'm lost in your charms."

actually i would compare his lyrics more with the choir......

mediocre at best... Tongue


That's just MEAN, Joey.... Evil

No comparison. Granted, I didn't get much out of his earlier stuff, but the last three albums (& High Noon which encompasses them) are great. Mark Heard was my nexus maybe five years from secular music with a handful of Christians making their way there (Tonio K., Bruce Cockburn, The Call, T-Bone & Sam Burnett, et al.) to "the ghetto" where valid Christian music actually existed & deserved to be found and to dominate my personal airwaves today. Were it not for Mark Heard, I never would have found Terry, Mike, Rich Mullins, et al. & al. & al.


Re: comments about VoL elsewhere: Get Slow Dark Train. That's the only one you need (heck, it may be the only CD anyone needs by anyone, Zoom Daddy notwithstanding). A lead weight that sinks to the bottom of the heart. The rest is hit-and miss. Yes, good lyrics, but to me it can be so whiny....



Posted by Eis on 05-03-2004 at16:37:

  hmmmm...

Interesting Carl: Slow Dark Train seems to be the least appreciated of Bill's Albums. I would say it's my least favorite, but that still places it nicely on my list of favorites Pleased Judas Skin, Locust Years, Facsimile, and Only A Scratch are amazing. Oh, and for some less whiny/depressing stuff from him (which is the best whiny/depressing stuff there is; taking one to the edge of a cliff where one teeters, falls into the dark void, and lands in the arms of Grace), check out Summershine and Perfumed Letter. BTW, as I'm harping on this, are you talking about his vocal style as being whiny, or just the songs as a whole?



Posted by Eis on 05-03-2004 at16:39:

Lamp Zoom Daddy

Zoom Daddy! : Big Grin



Posted by carl on 05-04-2004 at07:18:

  RE: hmmmm...

quote:
Originally posted by Eis
Interesting Carl: Slow Dark Train seems to be the least appreciated of Bill's Albums. I would say it's my least favorite, but that still places it nicely on my list of favorites Pleased Judas Skin, Locust Years, Facsimile, and Only A Scratch are amazing.

You forgot:

I think about my ship run a-ground
All of the people I let down
Yes, and the mercy we have found
And the mercy we have found

Crying Crying Crying Crying Crying Crying Crying Crying Crying Crying Crying Crying Crying Crying Crying Crying Crying Crying Crying Crying Crying Crying Crying Crying Crying Crying Crying Crying Crying Crying Crying Crying Crying Crying Crying Crying Crying Crying Crying Crying Crying Crying Crying Crying Crying Crying Crying Crying Crying Crying Crying Crying Crying Crying Crying Crying Crying Crying every time.... Smile )

quote:
Oh, and for some less whiny/depressing stuff from him (which is the best whiny/depressing stuff there is; taking one to the edge of a cliff where one teeters, falls into the dark void, and lands in the arms of Grace), check out Summershine and Perfumed Letter. BTW, as I'm harping on this, are you talking about his vocal style as being whiny, or just the songs as a whole?


Since there's two questions there:
1) I have no problems with depressing stuff. Heck, I LIKE depressing stuff. Big Grin Lets me know someone's actually been where I am now (that's "now" in a general sense, people; don't go reading unnecessarily into that Evil ) & that there's a way out.... (and FWIW, what I heard of Summershine didn't impress me). As such, I have given out Slow Dark Train almost like a prescription when I see other guys where I'VE been.... Smile

2) Re: the whininess: It's sort of both. It seems to come out more in his voice on the earlier stuff (prime example: "Who Knows When The Sunrise Will Be") and more in the songs themselves later on (I checked out after Fetal Position and that turgid baseball song). With a little less gratingness (or just a lower pitch), he could be Bruce Cockburn (speaking of great depressing albums: Go track down The Charity of Night if you haven't already)....



Posted by carl on 05-04-2004 at07:21:

Cool RE: Zoom Daddy

quote:
Originally posted by Eis
Zoom Daddy! : Big Grin


Big Grin Big Grin Big Grin



Posted by dennis on 05-04-2004 at07:43:

 

Roll Eyes Tongue



Posted by DaLe on 05-04-2004 at09:13:

 

this may be one of the Next Generation...

Jason Gay



I had 43 people over for a house concert last night.

Jason is a Good mix of humility, talent, speaking, & Rock & Roll!



Posted by Vox Robotica on 05-04-2004 at10:19:

 

I'm surprised that nobody's mentioned Daniel Smith, AKA Danielson. His music is an aquired taste, but he's the artsiest of the artsy.

~ Vox



Posted by dorfsmith on 05-04-2004 at12:01:

 

Danielson is the coolest!!! I have most of his CD's. Good stuff Tongue He's even better live Pleased



Posted by Eis on 05-04-2004 at12:35:

  All The Mercy We Have Found...

quote:
You forgot:


I almost put that song title down there too!


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