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Originally posted by Squidzit
Mountain, I had the same problem for a long time. I used to get anoyed at people that I thought were just going through the motions. People that were going for the glory and recognition. I used to get frustrated with people all the time. Then I realized that the same people that I had problems with also had problems with me. Hmmmm, maybe I was not the only on that was right. Novel idea that. 
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| I did the whole "Steeple Chase" thing. Apostolic, UPC, AG. I even tried Presbyterian. I kinda liked that. Very different than any church I had ever been to. |
Although I have been to a number of different denominations, I haven't felt like I have been steeple chasing, more of God chasing.
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My mom and dad always told me to keep my eyes on God and not the people around me. They said when I was perfect, the others would be also. I finaly got it. 
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I quit going to the church I grew up in because of the looking at man thing and stayed away 3 or 4 years. After I got saved I think I had learned my lesson on this point.
My biggest problem now has been with church leadership seeming to lead many astray, not just looking at their personal imperfections like we all have. The last church we were in had a lot of that "phony crap to get attendance up" type stuff going on behind the scenes as near as I can tell (dorfsmith quote from Angels thread in off-topic area). I wouldn't quite call them a cult yet but they were well on their way there. Some friends of ours that now go to our church but used to go to a different one in the area really had an experience where their "Christian church" turned into a cult.
My wife and I were talking that it is really sad when you need support groups for people damaged by churches. The church is supposed to be the support group for the world. There's this guy called (I think) David Heinke from Georgia that some of them have met with to get past their experiences. They are now doing a study from this group. (I couldn't find the info. I'm at home with our 2 1/2 boy who "lost his corn" last night. My wife is at church with our daughter).
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Now I've moved to Ohio and need to find another church. I'd better get my "I want to be a clone" tape out and dust it off. It's gonna be a bumpy ride. 
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Prayers going up! May God bless your family with a short search and a path to a great body of believers making a difference in your new community and making allowances for individuality and imperfections!
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Mountain Fan
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Ok, here's a link:
http://www.watchman.org/watchman.htm
This is the organization that David Heinke is associated with (President or the like).
dheinke@watchman.org
Note this is NOT affiliated in any way with the Watchtower society of the Jehovah's Witnesses.
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There's a really nice mosque in Perrysburg. 
In case you care, Squid.
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Squidzit
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I've seen it. It's about a mile from where I live now. But....
....all my turbans got lost in the move. 
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