DwDunphy 
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Just wondering -
How many on this board have actually never heard / owned "Darn Floor Big Bite"?
Since most of the other recordings have managed to eke out in one form or another, this one has become one of those 'holy grail' types of releases... So satisfy my curiosity, if you would.
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jiminy
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its the only original DA "prize" that I own
in that I mean- I bought it in 1987 when it first came out ....and still have it.
Most of my other DA "rare" things are reissue , along with a few "converted" from tape CDRs (for the most part..)
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MarkyMark77
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Don't have it. Never heard it.
Except for the title track, which is on the DA best of compilation.
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Mountain Fan
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Have on cassette only. Have seen it reported that CD version isn't very good because was mixed too low.
A prime candidate for reissue, if all the legal and fees can get resolved. 
My favorite DFBB song is "Divine Instant".
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dennis
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Originally posted by Mountain Fan
Have on cassette only. Have seen it reported that CD version isn't very good because was mixed too low.
A prime candidate for reissue, if all the legal and fees can get resolved.
My favorite DFBB song is "Divine Instant". |
I have it on CD. Yes it's mixed low but worth getting.
The LP version sounds the best to me and is pretty easy to get on ebay.
I have one CD, one LP and two version on tape.
I also have a few copies on cd-r.
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Like our titanium springy conscience bearer, I, too, bought it originally in '87. Still have it. Still in excellent condition. 
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jiminy
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To me the CD reflects good CCM quality for its day.
I recall a few CCM CDs I got in the 80s that never even played without jumping .- even after being returned for a second try.
Tim Miner comes to mind.....
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Scrimshaw Nick
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Originally posted by jiminy
To me the CD reflects good CCM quality for its day.
I recall a few CCM CDs I got in the 80s that never even played without jumping .- even after being returned for a second try.
Tim Miner comes to mind..... |
Yep, I had a heckuva time with a certain Julie Miller CD. Returned it I don't know how many times.
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Scrimshaw Nick
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For you kids with your boomboxes and pacemakers who don't know Magilla . . .
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jiminy
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Originally posted by Scrimshaw Nick
For you kids with your boomboxes and pacemakers who don't know Magilla . . .
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and dont forget!- blessed are the pacemakers..
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jiminy
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dw -
you never said..
do you own it? - or have you heard it???
or both? - or neither?
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I have the cassette - and it says on it something about printed/licensed in New Zealand.
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John Foxe
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I'm also one of the privileged few who have the original DFBB CD. It's going on 19 years now, and the condition is still good.
I couldn't find it in any Christian bookstores (surprise, surprise), nor was the Internet popular yet, so I was forced to order it by phone directly from Frontline.
This will sound like DA heresy: it's one of my least favorite recordings, and to this day I'm not fully warmed to it. When I first spun it, it was in stark contrast to anything else I'd heard. At that time I'd bought every TST recording in chronological order, and although each recording was very different, they all had their own individual appeal. DFBB was radically different, choppy, and dissonant. It's not hard for me to see why it didn't sell too many copies (sorry if I hurt any feelings).
On the positive side, I eventually took to a few tunes - Strange Animals, Earth Household, and especially Safety Net, I really LOVE that one. Plus, it's one recording that sonically does not show it's age too much. What genre do you place it? I think it really has its own.
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Mountain Fan
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Originally posted by John Foxe
I'm also one of the privileged few who have the original DFBB CD. It's going on 19 years now, and the condition is still good.
I couldn't find it in any Christian bookstores (surprise, surprise), nor was the Internet popular yet, so I was forced to order it by phone directly from Frontline.
This will sound like DA heresy: it's one of my least favorite recordings, and to this day I'm not fully warmed to it. When I first spun it, it was in stark contrast to anything else I'd heard. At that time I'd bought every TST recording in chronological order, and although each recording was very different, they all had their own individual appeal. DFBB was radically different, choppy, and dissonant. It's not hard for me to see why it didn't sell too many copies (sorry if I hurt any feelings).
On the positive side, I eventually took to a few tunes - Strange Animals, Earth Household, and especially Safety Net, I really LOVE that one. Plus, it's one recording that sonically does not show it's age too much. What genre do you place it? I think it really has its own. |
I guess if I had to put it in one genre, it would be something like "Rock Alternative". 
Just curious, what do you think of their more new wave stuff - Doppelganger, Vox Humana and Fearful Symmetry? Would you rate it higher or lower than either earlier or later stuff? How does it compare to you? 
It seems we all have our personal preferences and DA favorites usually have as much to do with our background and personal tastes than how excellent the recording was.
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I have a cassette, converted to CDR...I've been listening to it again this week, and it definitely is a rival to MBD and Motorcycle for my favorite DA album...definitely in a genre all its own. I honestly can't think of anything to compare it to. I can hear the 80s in it, but it is unlike any other "sound" I've ever heard...or probably ever will. 
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John Foxe
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Well, I've always respected originality of music and lyrics, which is what attracted me to DA in the first place.
I loathe top 40, bubble gum, and mindless stuff. I also don't care for dissonant sounds, from modern classical to that awful wretching Living Sacrifice stuff I hear at Cornerstone. (Can I get an amen from anyone here on that one?)
Every DA recording is fresh and original. HD's appeal to me was straight-up R&R. Alarma's was the edgy new-wave with a powerful message. Doppelganger took longer, but I took to the dark, different, and original music and lyrics. With Vox Humana I loved Rob Watson's touches and the intensity of the lyrics, and especially loved the closing track. With Fearful Symmetry I would agree with Terry that it was a little too "artsy-fartsy".
DFBB was certainly original in every aspect. It's in a class by itself, and stands the test of time. The concept was very cool, although lyrically a bit obtuse at times.
But listen to some of the songs that seem awkward to me in their beat and/or time signature, like Beat Menace, the title track, or even my all-time favorite, Safety Net. I read a comment on the board a while back from Tim Chandler that even he thought the timing in that song was weird (not an exact quote).
As to the dissonance, you probably know what I mean. Listen alongside a sonic masterpiece like Motorcycle, and you'll see where I'm coming from. I'm not saying Motorcycle was better, but it was definitely more pleasing to the ear.
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Originally posted by John Foxe
DFBB was certainly original in every aspect. It's in a class by itself, and stands the test of time. The concept was very cool, although lyrically a bit obtuse at times.
But listen to some of the songs that seem awkward to me in their beat and/or time signature, like Beat Menace, the title track, or even my all-time favorite, Safety Net. I read a comment on the board a while back from Tim Chandler that even he thought the timing in that song was weird (not an exact quote).
As to the dissonance, you probably know what I mean. Listen alongside a sonic masterpiece like Motorcycle, and you'll see where I'm coming from. I'm not saying Motorcycle was better, but it was definitely more pleasing to the ear. |
well, after disbelieving my ears for a long time and counting over and over and over while driving down the freeway which is where i get to listen to this stuff, i finally believed: the primary 7/4 guitar lick is two 7/8s repeated.
because the second one starts in between beats i was certain the second set changed up the pattern at least by one eight note, nope... what kind of twisted mentality can hang on to that with flubless success?
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what kind of twisted mentality can hang on to that with flubless success? |
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wakachiwaka
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so back to the two 7/8s - i think mr. flesch alters the accents slightly in the second set, is that right? |
I recall it as being pretty consistent (guitar accents capitalized, downbeats bolded):
E e e D d A a / E e e D d A a
all the way through the verses.
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